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		<title>By: Matt Goulart</title>
		<link>http://www.savingforserenity.com/how-to/how-much-should-i-spend-on-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Goulart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, actually, what you&#039;ve described is pretty much exactly what we&#039;ve done, and are planning on doing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We found something that we really liked and enjoyed, and went for it. It&#039;s going to end up being an average percentage of our income, once we&#039;re married and settled. After a few more months, or a year or two, the two of us are both going to be making more income, so as long as we stay where we are (which we&#039;re planning on doing), then that percentage will drop.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The percentage isn&#039;t the final say, it&#039;s not like we are going to refuse to spend more money on housing if one of us loses a job, it&#039;s just a guide, an ideal.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, actually, what you&#8217;ve described is pretty much exactly what we&#8217;ve done, and are planning on doing.</p>
<p>We found something that we really liked and enjoyed, and went for it. It&#8217;s going to end up being an average percentage of our income, once we&#8217;re married and settled. After a few more months, or a year or two, the two of us are both going to be making more income, so as long as we stay where we are (which we&#8217;re planning on doing), then that percentage will drop.</p>
<p>The percentage isn&#8217;t the final say, it&#8217;s not like we are going to refuse to spend more money on housing if one of us loses a job, it&#8217;s just a guide, an ideal.</p>
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		<title>By: Silicon Pairie</title>
		<link>http://www.savingforserenity.com/how-to/how-much-should-i-spend-on-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Silicon Pairie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s hard to set a fixed percentage because incomes vary a lot more than housing costs - having a lower income doesn&#039;t automatically mean you should go for the cheapest possible option unless you&#039;re really willing to give up a lot. But on the other side you can keep improving your situation by finding something that you don&#039;t mind (which it sounds like you&#039;ve done) and then not moving up as soon as your income increases. In that context you could set a percentage that you would allow yourself to spend if your income rises significantly, depending on what you&#039;re comfortable with and what else you need to spend on. Personally I&#039;d like to keep my percentage pretty low but that means doing more work to build my income.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Adam: I did this by setting a target for average monthly income based on my past experience and what I knew I could do if I worked for it, and then estimating everything in relation to that. To make sure you&#039;re safe you can set your target a bit lower than what you expect and plan around that, but also have a plan if you exceed it. It also helps to build up some extra cash that you can use in case a payment is delayed. That way you have a good idea what will happen over a long enough period of time, and you have the cash to keep it up if you get paid less one month and more the next.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to set a fixed percentage because incomes vary a lot more than housing costs &#8211; having a lower income doesn&#8217;t automatically mean you should go for the cheapest possible option unless you&#8217;re really willing to give up a lot. But on the other side you can keep improving your situation by finding something that you don&#8217;t mind (which it sounds like you&#8217;ve done) and then not moving up as soon as your income increases. In that context you could set a percentage that you would allow yourself to spend if your income rises significantly, depending on what you&#8217;re comfortable with and what else you need to spend on. Personally I&#8217;d like to keep my percentage pretty low but that means doing more work to build my income.</p>
<p>Adam: I did this by setting a target for average monthly income based on my past experience and what I knew I could do if I worked for it, and then estimating everything in relation to that. To make sure you&#8217;re safe you can set your target a bit lower than what you expect and plan around that, but also have a plan if you exceed it. It also helps to build up some extra cash that you can use in case a payment is delayed. That way you have a good idea what will happen over a long enough period of time, and you have the cash to keep it up if you get paid less one month and more the next.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Goulart</title>
		<link>http://www.savingforserenity.com/how-to/how-much-should-i-spend-on-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Goulart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, Dave, that&#039;s great that you&#039;re able to put aside money for saving and retirement already. Congrats!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for renting, I&#039;m not sure how long Ashley and I are planning on it. For one, I am not sure if buying a house is better off financially than renting, I&#039;ve seen the math go in both directions. In addition, as long as we&#039;re planning on living in North Vancouver, we&#039;re planning on renting. Buying a house up here is insane - a down payment on a house would be 3x my annual salary. If/when we move off the North Shore, we&#039;ll probably take into consideration buying a place, but who knows when that will be.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Dave, that&#8217;s great that you&#8217;re able to put aside money for saving and retirement already. Congrats!</p>
<p>As for renting, I&#8217;m not sure how long Ashley and I are planning on it. For one, I am not sure if buying a house is better off financially than renting, I&#8217;ve seen the math go in both directions. In addition, as long as we&#8217;re planning on living in North Vancouver, we&#8217;re planning on renting. Buying a house up here is insane &#8211; a down payment on a house would be 3x my annual salary. If/when we move off the North Shore, we&#8217;ll probably take into consideration buying a place, but who knows when that will be.</p>
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		<title>By: David Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.savingforserenity.com/how-to/how-much-should-i-spend-on-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>David Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 08:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great blog Alan, really enjoying your material. It seems we&#039;re in a rather similar situation, with Amanda and I only a matter of months into the marriage; living in the Lower Mainland with low incomes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Between us Amanda and I earn only $1800 monthly and our rent is $875 including all utilities, basement suite in Cloverdale. That&#039;s us at 49%. My income took a bit of a jump in May as I moved from being paid 20 hours weekly to 30 hours weekly, forgetting the fact I work 40/50+! This didn&#039;t increase my take home pay however as I&#039;m investing the raise in medical/dental/life insurance and a retirement plan (5% that&#039;s matched 5%). We&#039;ve found every time we jump up in pay we try to stick at the same monthly expenditure. That way we&#039;ve actually been able to invest and save somehow; which we&#039;re pleased with particularly with our low income.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We don&#039;t give ourselves the chance to go into debt with secured credit cards and never buying anything we can&#039;t pay for up front. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I suppose the elephant in the room however is the fact that we&#039;re still renting and therefore paying someone else&#039;s mortgage. How long to do you plan to be renting Alan?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog Alan, really enjoying your material. It seems we&#8217;re in a rather similar situation, with Amanda and I only a matter of months into the marriage; living in the Lower Mainland with low incomes.</p>
<p>Between us Amanda and I earn only $1800 monthly and our rent is $875 including all utilities, basement suite in Cloverdale. That&#8217;s us at 49%. My income took a bit of a jump in May as I moved from being paid 20 hours weekly to 30 hours weekly, forgetting the fact I work 40/50+! This didn&#8217;t increase my take home pay however as I&#8217;m investing the raise in medical/dental/life insurance and a retirement plan (5% that&#8217;s matched 5%). We&#8217;ve found every time we jump up in pay we try to stick at the same monthly expenditure. That way we&#8217;ve actually been able to invest and save somehow; which we&#8217;re pleased with particularly with our low income.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t give ourselves the chance to go into debt with secured credit cards and never buying anything we can&#8217;t pay for up front. </p>
<p>I suppose the elephant in the room however is the fact that we&#8217;re still renting and therefore paying someone else&#8217;s mortgage. How long to do you plan to be renting Alan?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Goulart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Goulart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great question. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think I would suggest that you predict your yearly net income, if possible, and then work your way backwards. So instead of creating your percentages off of a monthly income, you figure out how much you might make this year, and go from there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For example, if you are going to predict that you will net $20,000 this year, then find 25 or 35% of that, divide it by the 12 months of the year, and you have an approximate budget. Or, because you&#039;re going to be combining your money with Alicia, plan all of your expenses around her income, and use your income purely for debt repayment and saving.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Would that work? Anybody else have thoughts/ideas?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question. </p>
<p>I think I would suggest that you predict your yearly net income, if possible, and then work your way backwards. So instead of creating your percentages off of a monthly income, you figure out how much you might make this year, and go from there.</p>
<p>For example, if you are going to predict that you will net $20,000 this year, then find 25 or 35% of that, divide it by the 12 months of the year, and you have an approximate budget. Or, because you&#8217;re going to be combining your money with Alicia, plan all of your expenses around her income, and use your income purely for debt repayment and saving.</p>
<p>Would that work? Anybody else have thoughts/ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Loewen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Loewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good post man. But how do you work this stuff out if you&#039;re self employed and don&#039;t have a fixed income. I&#039;m not working with linear percentage figures; income can change drastically from month to month. Any tips??&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post man. But how do you work this stuff out if you&#8217;re self employed and don&#8217;t have a fixed income. I&#8217;m not working with linear percentage figures; income can change drastically from month to month. Any tips??</p>
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